The Adventures of Captain Denar

Alex Collier has asked me to remove the letter relating to the film “The Adventures of Captain Denar”.

Dear James,   I have heard that a private letter that Audra had drafted, and sent to
a few people that was a private correspondence was posted on your site. This letter
was not to be posted anywhere, as was stated in that same letter. Could you please
remove this letter and make sure that its not posted again on the site. I would
really be grateful. I will send you an update next week. 

Sincerely,  Alex Collier

I will post the update if he sends it next week.

Regards

James Harkin
On behalf of AlexCollier.org


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    • Velassar
    • January 15, 2014
    Reply

    @Julian: 2016 is too far away! I am sticking to my expectations that something massive and Earth-changing that will force us to change our lives naturally will happen by the end of this month to early February 2014. I’m thinking that ISON debris field might have something to do with the changes, as we are supposed to neter that from 15th January 2014 onwards.

    • Julian
    • January 15, 2014
    Reply

    Well folks, I decided to post again because this man Simon Parkes, is the most credible and well informed contact person I have ever heard. This is a two hour interview and very informative. I’m a member of Project Avalon where the interview is posted.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6dxXAAAIp4

    To summarize, he feels Tolec is complete disinformation, affirms we are getting help and are currently on a positive time line with respect to a true awakening of human consciousness by 2016 but that the next 2 years will have lot’s of cross roads where each of us individually and collectively will have to use our energy to manifest the future we truly want.

    From the point of view of an imminent “dimensional shift” this interview pretty much discourages that type of thinking and certainly discourages the idea that we will be “rescued” by any higher dimensional agency.

    I really believe this man’s information is good and despite the continued posts from Tolec that seem to desperate introduce one miraculous possibility after another, I think we are seeing the handwriting on the wall with respect to his narrative. At a certain point things either have to come to fruition or not. It seems that Tolec is taking each new image or U tube movie and throwing it up as support for his position. I have to ask why? Either the information he gets from the AC is accurate or not, why all the elaboration? I had a burst of enthusiasm around the Thomas Hughes/John Allen interviews and still don’t know what to make of them, but it’s feels to me at least like this particular story line is running out.

    Ah well.

    • Cathy
    • January 14, 2014
    Reply

    So…Tantarum received an email requesting he share the information with interested parties only and NOT to post it on any web site…Doesn’t ANYONE read a message through anymore? Don’t you people understand what you do, or are you just playing games? This is REAL. The enemy is REAL, visible, tangible and treats us like we treat animals–and you’re goofing off in wonderland waiting for “help.” WE, you, I and all of us have a responsibility to affect change–not wait for someone to come rescue us. That is a LIE!

    1. Reply

      Your wasting your breath, people wont listed worth a dime and you all know it.

    • Awakened
    • January 14, 2014
    Reply

    IMMINENT ASCENSION MUST SEE:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GR3AA8rR6XA

    • Velassar
    • January 13, 2014
    Reply

    ISON debris field intersects with Earth’s orbital path from January 15 2014. Be safe folks. Doctors say “Drop and take cover when you see the bright flash from a meteor”. Read here for more: http://lunaticoutpost.com/Topic-U-S-doctors-Drop-and-take-cover-when-you-see-the-bright-flash-from-a-meteor

    • Luis Macías Casas
    • January 12, 2014
    Reply

    Anyway, guys… Where is DimensionalVortex, i MISS HIM SO MUCH!!!

    1. Reply

      Still here, I am doing ok, just going through so much changes, this energy changes thats going through my body now is so intense that I literally cant do anything, right after work, right to bed.

      Sightings are still growing on each day that passes by.

    2. Reply

      Also I do intense workout, 6 days a week, So I am always constantly in the gym.

        • Luis Macías Casas
        • January 13, 2014

        I’m happy to see you writing again in here, good luck to you, our liberation is very near!!!

    • Luis Macías Casas
    • January 12, 2014
    Reply

    just awake and aware… just, forget and forgive my stupidity… i’m open to everything.

    • just awake and aware
    • January 12, 2014
    Reply

    are they Sirians or are they Humans before Genetic Alteration by Anunnaki reptoids?
    http://hiddenincatours.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/e4.jpg

    Draconians brought Moon from Ursa Minor in the Earths orbit and fixed it in that position, right? and wiped out the Civilization 10000-12000 years ago with great flood. And then Humans were altered again by reptilians which became todays modern man. ~1400cc brain capacity. then old humans were Cro-Magnons ~1600cc which would be first altered man melded with homo erectus primate 200,000 years ago on Mars and then were brought on Earth. there was already an Advanced Human civilization on Earth living for millions of years, which probably were Pleiadians who would then be also the original builders of Pyramids. correct me if i am wrong ^^

      • Gurtej SIngh
      • January 12, 2014
      Reply

      GET A LIFE DUDE

        • just awake and aware
        • January 12, 2014

        I am No Life King 😀
        http://tinyurl.com/kortnz7

        • just awake and aware
        • January 12, 2014

        yeah right like africans elongating their skulls is going to compare anywhere near with actual elongated ET skulls. :p

        • Gurtej SIngh
        • January 12, 2014

        yes, they are African skulls elongated at childhood. That is the problem with you guys. because you spend lot of your times on conspiracy theories that you lost your reasoning abilities. you won’t listen to the truth, the only truth for you is all these crap you listen that satisfies your ignorance.

        • just awake and aware
        • January 12, 2014

        how do explain up to 2600-3200cc skull volume increase?
        that’s more than double the volume of human skull
        its literally impossible no matter how much of an expert
        a head binder may be.
        african head binding will at most elongate skull up to 1800cc
        and skulls will leave serious marks of binding.

        • Gurtej SIngh
        • January 12, 2014

        http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/11/ParacasSkullsIcaMuseum.jpg

        By the way the picture you showed above is from the people of Paracus culture(800bc-100bc)

        • just awake and aware
        • January 12, 2014

        you can tell from looking at those skulls that they are not elongated with head binding.
        some ET Elongated Skulls differences
        Thicker than human skulls
        Two tiny holes behind skulls
        2 cranial sutures instead of 3
        larger eye sockets
        don’t fully trust wiki about any alien related topic.

        • Gurtej SIngh
        • January 12, 2014

        actually they can because every human being had their own limit to elongation. It was done during childhood, when bones are soft and can be deformed into any shape. The exact same skull picture you have shown belong to paracus cultural tribe.So sorry but you are wrong

        • just awake and aware
        • January 12, 2014

        i never said they can’t. but they can’t double the volume. ET’s were openly coming and going thousands of years ago. it would make perfect sense that some died on earth. almost all life on earth was brought here from somewhere and altered to survive here.
        take domestic plants and animals. started appearing just 10000 years ago.
        besides elongating skulls in childhood must be traumatizing for those childrens but it still wont double the volume.
        check this too:
        http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/esp_cienciadarwing_faq.htm
        http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_outside_interv.htm

        • just awake and aware
        • January 12, 2014

        i never said they can’t. but they can’t double the volume. ET’s were openly coming and going thousands of years ago. it would make perfect sense that some died on earth. almost all life on earth was brought here from somewhere and altered to survive here.
        take domestic plants and animals. started appearing just 10000 years ago.
        besides elongating skulls in childhood must be traumatizing for those childrens but it still wont double the volume.

        • Alex
        • January 26, 2014

        How does one compensate for empty cavity in one’s head skull structure?

        • Gurtej SIngh
        • January 12, 2014

        I am just flabbergasted by your bias…who am I kidding, even if aliens land here and tell you those are not our skulls. you still won’t believe them

        • just awake and aware
        • January 12, 2014

        actually i am not 100% convinced either until DNA results come in ^^

        • just awake and aware
        • January 12, 2014

        check topics:
        http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_starchild.htm
        Evidence for Creation by Outside Intervention
        Frequently Asked Questions to Lloyd Pye

        • Gurtej SIngh
        • January 12, 2014

        go to the museum where there are kept ask the manager about DNA result. I sure he will give you the details

    • Velassar
    • January 12, 2014
    Reply

    Guys, can you check out the thread below. According to a source, JPL astrophysicists plan to bug out after January 15 2014, due to Earth’s orbital path about to enter ISON’s inbound debris field.

    http://lunaticoutpost.com/Topic-JPL-Astrophysicists-to-bug-out-after-January-15-2014?page=1

    Hmmm….If I am not mistaken, Tolec did say that an asteroid more than 10 miles in diameter(If I’m not mistaken???) is trailing behind Xanterexx…..

    Also, Tolec did mentioned the specific date of January 14 2014 for the official start of Earth moving into the 4th dimension. Check out below link.

    http://ascendingstarseed.wordpress.com/category/alex-collier/tolec-and-the-andromeda-council/

    Excerpt:

    There are a couple problems I have with Tolec’s rendition of Earth and humanity’s ascension. First the January 14, 2014 date for moving into the 4th dimension presents a couple of questions. We’ve always been told no one knows the specific date, only the Creator knows. Also he says it’s going to happen like turning on a light switch, we’ll all wake up in the 4th dimension just like that? That everyone will shift at once, even people who have no spiritual awareness that still live in hate, anger and fear???? Have a problem with that.

    I don’t get the impression he really understands what’s going to with the shift, especially when the people I’ve been working with are focused on building a New Earth in the 5th dimension – not the 4th dimension. Maybe he’s talking of a lower aspect of Earth that will shift to the 4th dimension on a different timeline, I don’t know.

      • roberto cassola
      • January 13, 2014
      Reply

      Lo que yo creo es que nos estan tomando el pelo…siempre fue asi….que a partir de los primeros dias de Enero-2014 ibamos a cambiar, decian…? luego que cambiamos en febrero, ahora que esperar hasta Julio-2014… jajaja. es una tomadura de pelo, creo que Tolec,Velassar y otros,son la misma persona.Se estan confabulando para dañar a personas de buen corazon.Dios bendiga a los hombres de buen corazon.

      English Translation: What I believe is that we are kidding … it was always like that …. that from the first days of January-2014 were going to change, they said …? then we changed in February, now have to wait until July-2014 … lol. is a joke, I think Tolec, Velassar and others are the same persona.Se are plotting to harm good people corazon.Dios bless the men of good heart.

    • just awake and aware
    • January 11, 2014
    Reply

    for those who still haven’t seen these video’s check out. very recommended ^^
    Lloyd Pye – The Man who Debunked Darwin Evolution permanently.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5qJYwfAju8
    Starchild Skull – A Grey Alien Skull for real!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4s0VxnHkv_4
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58fkO3Vkn7U
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dchQX0_16aw

    • just awake and aware
    • January 10, 2014
    Reply

    did moon changed orbit again? not sure but i think last week or few days ago (pardon my stupid recall ability) moon was setting on the same side Sun sets, now moon setting on the right side?
    before it was moon rising on left, setting on right
    now it is moon rising on the left, setting on the left
    maybe its just me. though it wont be surprising if moon really is spaceship.

      • just awake and aware
      • January 10, 2014
      Reply

      made mistake sorry
      before it was moon rising on left, setting on left
      now moon rising on the left, setting on the right

    • just awake and aware
    • January 10, 2014
    Reply

    we are not going anywhere? maybe not dimensional shift but density shift of consciousness to 4D going to happen. next generation becoming more intelligent, telepathic/telekinetic, remembering past lives and more.
    metaphor for density/vibration
    http://i42.tinypic.com/287q1wy.jpg

      • Luis Macías Casas
      • January 10, 2014
      Reply

      I think you’re being a bit too much optimistic… i mean, what could made me sure that “Shift” is gonna’ happen?

      And, don’t get me wrong, if this thing is true i can’t wait to have it ’cause i would like to try the limits of the 4th Dimension… but… it seems like a change very, very… VERY BIG to us…

        • Luis Macías Casas
        • January 10, 2014

        And MUCH MORE IMPORTANT… ? When?

    • Gurtej SIngh
    • January 9, 2014
    Reply

    I guess andromedans work at NVIDIA. Man, if people still don’t realize that tolec is a liar then God helps us. I mean what other proof you people require.

    • Julian
    • January 8, 2014
    Reply

    @Velassar, that story, it’s source and everything connected to it is an entertainment spoof. Read through the comment section below the “story”. It’s a silly spoof, and when you seize on it as proof of anything your basically giving us a picture of how ungrounded this discussion has become. Of course that’s not a bad contribution in itself. Thank you!

    Wonderful that you are in contact with Alex Collier. I’ve been back channeling Tolec on his regular U Tube account, does Alex have anything similar?

    Tolec answered my three questions.

    1) Did the AC confirm the authenticity of the circle?

    2) Do they (AC) offer explanations for the symbols contained therein?

    3) Assuming the 192 numerical coding is being understood correctly are we now to orient towards the July 2014 date as being particularly meaningful?

    with a single word in the subject line. “Yes”.

    I’m taking this as entirely humorous and another clear signal from the universe that we are not going to get coax any further information from him (or anyone else) at this time.

    I’m taking a break from pushing for any further information until we past through the balance of this month.

    regards,

    Julian

    • Velassar
    • January 8, 2014
    Reply

    @just awake and aware: Nibiru has nothing to do with the changes that Tolec and Collier have been talking about. The changes will happen due to the Galactic Torsion Wave that has a huge magnetic influences on the solar system, and that will change Earth, along with the newly inserted dimensional-changing frequency emanating from the black holes that will be present in that torsion wave we will enter soon, perhaps by the end of this month.

      • Awakened
      • January 8, 2014
      Reply

      Argument from ignorance:- is a fallacy in informal logic. It asserts that a proposition is true because it has not yet been proven false

    • just awake and aware
    • January 8, 2014
    Reply

    Nibiru comes once every 13000 years not 3600.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJJ0N-Qq3CI

    • Velassar
    • January 8, 2014
    Reply

    @Luis Macias: It might be a hoax, but as Julian stated above, “If the dimensional shift is immanent, why would it(crop circle) point to July”? That time frame is close to that hoax date of June 1 2014, and that thread, made in 2005, completely bypassed the Dec 21 2012 fail date and Collier’s Dec 3 2013 date, then one can’t help that something made them make that hoax with a time frame not that far from Tolec’s estimated date of January 2014 for the 4D shift.

    Sometimes, hoaxes could contain several facts that are broadcasted into their brains by ETs in the know. Besides, the GLP separate thread already has new info that a mini-black hole is approaching, so what else could explain all these freaky weather that we currently suffer in the many nations? It doesn’t matter what the catalyst is, black hole, Galactic Torsion wave, or energy cloud, since the important thing to know is that the big changes that Tolec have been talking about will happen soon, regardless of what the causes are.

    I am now attempting to connect the dots, and will not just rely on one source. I’m now gonna do some research in weather record and other scientific stuff to gain more insight to find more evidence of myriad sources’ claims. Oh, by the way, have you guys heard of Terral03’s Black Star research project on Youtube?

      • Luis Macías Casas
      • January 8, 2014
      Reply

      I don’t know, What has to happen, happens… and no, i will check it out what you told me ride away, ;-).

    • Velassar
    • January 8, 2014
    Reply

    So, the information from this thread >>> http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread171297/pg1 of an event concerning Earth and our solar system that would reach peak level by June 1 2014, might have a relation with the crop circle that gave a date of July 1 2014. The Earth might cease to exist in 3rd density physicality at that time, but that energy would birth Earth in her 4th dimension form.

    Of course, in the next few weeks the Earth’s vibration would grow higher and higher, as our solar system would be under more influence from the approaching black hole or Galactic Torsion Wave, and Menedes567 from ATS forum has stated he expects some Earth people to gain psychic abilities sometime between January 27-February 14 2014. Normally this would produce only cataclysmic events, and only birth a planet into higher dimensional forms but as Collier said, a new energy just entering our Universe from black holes since March 23 1994 allows people to become 4D and 5D beings from 3rd density physicality without dying or leaving the physical container. So Earth will completely become higher dimensional no later than a time frame of June-July 2014, according to that 2005 thread and the crop circle, but some will become 4D beings long before that. Remember that Tolec said that people who won’t ascend will be given an advance notice for departure 5 months before January 2014?It is from here: http://www.andromedacouncil.com/FAQ-FrequentQuestions.html

    Excerpt: What about the people who wish to continue to live 3D, third dimensional lives. What about them?

    “ANSWER: First a point of reference – if people are physically on planet Earth in early January 2014 – they will, most will, at minimum become 4D, fourth dimensional, people. Some will, because of their soul & spirit origin essence, and current level of higher vibration, become 5D, fifth dimensional people. Please keep in mind, the raising of the vibrational frequency of this solar system, including planet Earth, is just part of its destiny, its planned evolution.

    Now, as to the approximate fifty percent (50%) (+-5%) of the people who will want to choose to remain 3D and continue to live third dimensional lives: they will have the ability to choose, or not, keep in mind this is all about free will choice, to relocate to an alternative, pristine, virgin 3D world much like Earth was before it became industrialized. This planet is also located in the Milky Way galaxy like planet Earth.

    People who choose to travel to this world will be provided with an advanced notice for departure sometime during the Summer 2013, approximately five (5) months before January 2014.”

    Me: It is actually 5 months before mid-June-mid-July 2014, which means that the advance notice for departure would be announced(probably by the Andromedans) between mid-January to mid-February 2014.

    • Velassar
    • January 8, 2014
    Reply

    More info that correlates that black hole info from GLP here. The event horizon might touch Earth in June 2014 but, some whose vibrations are high enough will become 4D beings before that. Those that can’t will have to move to other 3D planets to avoid being sucked in? Read below: http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread171297/pg1

    Excerpt:

    Quoting from NinjaCodeMonkey below:

    Planet-dissolving Dust Cloud is Headed Toward Earth

    “CAMBRIDGE, Mass. — Scared-stiff astronomers have detected a mysterious mass they’ve dubbed a “chaos cloud” that dissolves everything in its path, including comets, asteroids, planets and entire stars — and it’s headed directly toward Earth!

    Discovered April 6 by NASA’s Chandra X-ray Observatory, the swirling, 10 million-mile- wide cosmic dust cloud has been likened to an “acid nebula” and is hurtling toward us at close to the speed of light —

    making its estimated time of arrival 9:15 a.m. EDT on June 1, 2014.

    “The good news is that this finding confirms several cutting- edge ideas in theoretical physics,” announced Dr. Albert Sherwinski, a Cambridge based astrophysicist with close ties to NASA.”

    Don’t Panic!!! I am studying Aerospace Engineering, if there is a solution to this problem i’ll find it. They mentioned building a space ark and taking only the best and brightest with them. I’ll build a better one and i’ll take all the hotties with me.

    Seriously though, how the hell could we stop something like that if it turns out to be 100% true? They saw it totally destroy a huge asteroid, sounds friendly. We only have a few years, i think we should all start thinking about ways to survive. Where is Tesla when you need him?

    MOD EDIT: No all-caps in title, please.

      • Luis Macías Casas
      • January 8, 2014
      Reply

      This time Velassar i don’t buy anything of what you have there… that “wide cosmic dust cloud” it’s completely impossible.

      In fact, is a hoax to create panic.

    • Velassar
    • January 8, 2014
    Reply

    Guys, the other day I e-mailed Alex Collier, and in that conversation (which I won’t post the full contents here to protect our privacy), he said that some time in the very near future, we will all come out from the concept of time. He said that was what his contacts told him.

    I just went to this forum and someone talked about something that might be related to that. Click below:

    http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2453355/pg1

    Excerpt from first post:

    From Anonymous Coward
    User ID: 21685746

    “WARNING relative at ESA says possible black hole passing through solar system; tsunamis, EQs, asteroid impacts

    She says it’s pretty much confirmed. Already affecting levels of insolation leading to the extreme weather in North America and Europe.

    World leaders being updated but not ready to break news to avoid panic for as long as possible.

    • Julian
    • January 8, 2014
    Reply

    @just awake and aware,

    I really do have my own questions about this crop circle however if you referenced that video as indicative of an additional problem with the design of the crop circle (which may not have been your intent at all) there are several points to keep in mind.

    The video you referenced states that the entire solar system is spiraling as it revolves around a central sun (Alycene). However within our solar system the relative motions of planets in relation to each other is more of the oval shape (close to a circle).

    Assuming that the crop circle simply meant to get a time message across, the circle on which the “planets” are located could be seen as a “snapshot” of their position relative to the plane of the ecliptic rather then their ongoing orbital path displayed over time. The fact that people could correlate the time period of 192 to the actual relative positions of the planets in July indicates that one alleged “meaning” of the arrangement could be readily understood by an observer. Presumably getting the meaning across to an observer was the intended purpose as opposed to a literally accurate picture of orbital paths.

    Of course you may not be relating you comment to the crop circle at all. I guess I have crop circles on the brain right now.

    However I do have my own questions which are.

    1) Why does this crop circle look so much like a computer chip?

    2) If the dimensional shift is immanent why point us towards July?

    3) If the dimensional shift is immanent and unstoppable why go to the trouble of staging this NIVIDA video?

    4) If Tolec felt it was only a “potential” confirmation one day how did he become convinced the following day that the expose was staged?

    5) What does the AC say about the crop circle?

    6) What ET agency created the crop circle? If this was the AC why have they shifted to this means of communication?

    It will be interesting to see what answers might be forthcoming.

    • Velassar
    • January 8, 2014
    Reply

    @Gurtej: The Moon is really an ET spaceship, brought here by the Orions artificially. Below are ponts that state why it is a spaceship, and not naturally formed:

    http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081202140152AA88qxs

    Excerpt:

    Quoting Vasaga below:

    After hundreds of years of detailed observation and study, our closest companion in the vast universe, Earth’s moon, remains an enigma. Six moon landings and hundreds of experiments have resulted in more questions being asked than answered. Among them:

    1. Moon’s Age: The moon is far older than previously expected. Maybe even older than the Earth or the Sun. The oldest age for the Earth is estimated to be 4.6 billion years old; moon rocks were dated at 5.3 billion years old, and the dust upon which they were resting was at least another billion years older.

    2. Rock’s Origin: The chemical composition of the dust upon which the rocks sat differed remarkably from the rocks themselves, contrary to accepted theories that the dust resulted from weathering and breakup of the rocks themselves. The rocks had to have come from somewhere else.

    3. Heavier Elements on Surface: Normal planetary composition results in heavier elements in the core and lighter materials at the surface; not so with the moon. According to Wilson, “The abundance of refractory elements like titanium in the surface areas is so pronounced that several geologists proposed the refractory compounds were brought to the moon’s surface in great quantity in some unknown way. They don’t know how, but that it was done cannot be questioned.” (Emphasis added).

    4. Water Vapor: On March 7, 1971, lunar instruments placed by the astronauts recorded a vapor cloud of water passing across the surface of the moon. The cloud lasted 14 hours and covered an area of about 100 square miles.

    5. Magnetic Rocks: Moon rocks were magnetized. This is odd because there is no magnetic field on the moon itself. This could not have originated from a “close call” with Earth—such an encounter would have ripped the moon apart.

    6. No Volcanoes: Some of the moon’s craters originated internally, yet there is no indication that the moon was ever hot enough to produce volcanic eruptions.

    7. Moon Mascons: Mascons, which are large, dense, circular masses lying twenty to forty miles beneath the centers of the moon’s maria, “are broad, disk-shaped objects that could be possibly some kind of artificial construction. For huge circular disks are not likely to be beneath each huge maria, centered like bull’s-eyes in the middle of each, by coincidence or accident.” (Emphasis added).

    8. Seismic Activity: Hundreds of “moonquakes” are recorded each year that cannot be attributed to meteor strikes. In November, 1958, Soviet astronomer Nikolay A. Kozyrev of the Crimean Astrophysical Observatory photographed a gaseous eruption of the moon near the crater Alphonsus. He also detected a reddish glow that lasted for about an hour. In 1963, astronomers at the Lowell Observatory also saw reddish glows on the crests of ridges in the Aristarchus region. These observations have proved to be precisely identical and periodical, repeating themselves as the moon moves closer to the Earth. These are probably not natural phenomena.

    9. Hollow Moon: The moon’s mean density is 3.34 gm/cm3 (3.34 times an equal volume of water) whereas the Earth’s is 5.5. What does this mean? In 1962, NASA scientist Dr. Gordon MacDonald stated, “If the astronomical data are reduced, it is found that the data require that the interior of the moon is more like a hollow than a homogeneous sphere.” Nobel chemist Dr. Harold Urey suggested the moon’s reduced density is because of large areas inside the moon where is “simply a cavity.” MIT’s Dr. Sean C. Solomon wrote, “the Lunar Orbiter experiments vastly improved our knowledge of the moon’s gravitational field . . . indicating the frightening possibility that the moon might be hollow.” In Carl Sagan’s treatise, Intelligent Life in the Universe, the famous astronomer stated, “A natural satellite cannot be a hollow object.”

    10. Moon Echoes: On November 20, 1969, the Apollo 12 crew jettisoned the lunar module ascent stage causing it to crash onto the moon. The LM’s impact (about 40 miles from the Apollo 12 landing site) created an artificial moonquake with startling characteristics—the moon reverberated like a bell for more than an hour. This phenomenon was repeated with Apollo 13 (intentionally commanding the third stage to impact the moon), with even more startling results. Seismic instruments recorded that the reverberations lasted for three hours and twenty minutes and traveled to a depth of twenty-five miles, leading to the conclusion that the moon has an unusually light—or even no—core.

    11. Unusual Metals: The moon’s crust is much harder than presumed. Remember the extreme difficulty the astronauts encountered when they tried to drill into the maria? Surprise! The maria is composed primarily illeminite, a mineral containing large amounts of titanium, the same metal used to fabricate the hulls of deep-diving submarines and the skin of the SR-71 “Blackbird”. Uranium 236 and neptunium 237 (elements
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    Uranium 236 and neptunium 237 (elements not found in nature on Earth) were discovered in lunar rocks, as were rustproof iron particles.

    12. Moon’s Origin: Before the astronauts’ moon rocks conclusively disproved the theory, the moon was believed to have originated when a chunk of Earth broke off eons ago (who knows from where?). Another theory was that the moon was created from leftover “space dust” remaining after the Earth was created. Analysis of the composition of moon rocks disproved this theory also. Another popular theory is that the moon was somehow “captured” by the Earth’s gravitational attraction. But no evidence exists to support this theory. Isaac Asimov, stated, “It’s too big to have been captured by the Earth. The chances of such a capture having been effected and the moon then having taken up nearly circular orbit around our Earth are too small to make such an eventuality credible.”
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    13. Weird Orbit: Our moon is the only moon in the solar system that has a stationary, near-perfect circular orbit. Stranger still, the moon’s center of mass is about 6000 feet closer to the Earth than its geometric center (which should cause wobbling), but the moon’s bulge is on the far side of the moon, away from the Earth. “Something” had to put the moon in orbit with its precise altitude, course, and speed.

    14. Moon Diameter: How does one explain the “coincidence” that the moon is just the right distance, coupled with just the right diameter, to completely cover the sun during an eclipse? Again, Isaac Asimov responds, “There is no astronomical reason why the moon and the sun should fit so well. It is the sheerest of coincidences, and only the Earth among all the planets is blessed in this fashion.”
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    15. Spaceship Moon: As outrageous as the Moon-Is-a-Spaceship Theory is, all of the above items are resolved if one assumes that the moon is a gigantic extraterrestrial craft, brought here eons ago by intelligent beings. This is the only theory that is supported by all of the data, and there are no data that contradict this theory.

    • just awake and aware
    • January 8, 2014
    Reply

    Planets do not orbit around Sun in circle but spiral
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbK34NaMnQ4

    • Julian
    • January 8, 2014
    Reply

    Well guys it seems we are becoming quite the little cohort on this page. Anyway I back channeled Tolec about the NIVIDA “debunking” video that is out there and referenced in several places above. Here’s what I got back.

    humorisgood441. NOT EVERYTHING IS AS IT SEEMS…..
    humorisgood441,

    Julian,

    The new video of the production of the crop circle made by the guys from England and purportedly how they did it…

    THAT VIDEO was staged….

    to debunk the value & information of the crop circle.
    ———-

    Tolec
    Andromeda Council

    I can think of plenty of reasons why it really was a publicity stunt and that it’s “message” should hot be taken seriously. Upon reflection however, I can also think of several considerations that support Tolec’s position. I’m listing those below.

    1) If this was a publicity stunt why did the debunking video ignore the appearance of green flashes that occurred the night before when the two guys found it? Why did they announce it was discovered by an aerial photographer when we know it was actually discovered by the two guys who made the video. Since they are interviewing the “insiders” who set up the “hoax” wouldn’t it be apropos to back track and have them explain how the flashing green lights were placed into the U Tube movie they releases? Why leave a loose end unless the two guys wouldn’t make the statement they needed the public to hear?

    2) If this was a publicity stunt why expose it so quickly when excitement and media exposure was just picking up? This thing could have gone viral in a matter of days thus producing more free publicity for their roll out.

    3) If these guys were out there in the daylight making this thing before hand how come no one else observed them? Evidently there was quite a bit of traffic on the road next to this field. Once the publicity hit it’s pretty hard to believe that local people who had been driving by the place day after day would not have come forward saying they saw the crew out there in preceding days. People love to be on camera and their accounts would have further reinforced the impression that we are all so needy for a “miracle” that no one would listen to the the common sense accounts they were trying to make. If I wanted to debunk it properly I’d certainly bring in the “common man”, wouldn’t you?

    4) If this was a publicity stunt wouldn’t they have cleared it with the property owner, paid for the use of the land and then KEPT THE DESIGN UP, to get the full return on their investment? Instead the property owner acted like the whole thing was an embarrassment and immediately plowed it under. As publicity there is no question they could have milked it for a number of days. The bloody site would become a Mecca for the curious who wanted to see and walk the pattern for themselves. Having walked it like the gullible faithful they are implying we are, won’t those same gullible sheep rushed out to buy their product in the belief they were hastening the second coming of something or other? The period between now and July could have been a total buying frenzy for their new chip. So if they had purchased land usage rights (and they must have to proceed lawfully) why destroy it so quickly?

    The explanation that the owner didn’t want an edible food crop to go into consumption is bogus. That crop was no where near ready to be harvested. In addition they could have surrounded it with a fence to make sure it remained unmistakably “art” and not “food”. Finally, farmers walk through their fields all the time, exactly what was the nature of the “contamination” they needed to avoid getting into food? The artist’s smashed the barley down with boards not Agent Orange.

    5) Since genuine crop circles possess electromagnetic anomalies that can’t be faked could it be they wanted to prevent subsequent researchers from gaining access to the site and establishing that those anomalies were present and it couldn’t have been the result of man made efforts?

    So Tolec’s credibility problems remain exactly what they were before and I am making no comment about that. However the hoax explanation has some problems as well.

    I’ve asked Tolec for further explanation of what the AC says is the real message in the circle and why such a message would appear in that way. I’ll post his answer when I receive it.

    regards,

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